洞天福地展示
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洞天福地展示
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本帖最后由 紫之烨 于 2023-11-28 11:08 编辑
摆放上限提高了好多，以前一些浪费位置的的摆放现在可以实现啦
今天就尝试摆了这个镂空花墙
先摆一排姑苏梦高墙
每隔两个小格子摆一个高墙
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在高墙上摆一排平台中心
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在上面摆放平桥窄，再收起平台
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在下面合适的位置摆第二层平台
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继续第三层
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在里面摆上盆景就可以啦
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建镂空花墙的搭建方法方法
好美呀，超级喜欢那个小围屋（其实哪里都喜欢）{:JG20:} 这个洞天想要古风一点的亭子 水 小路 小桥那种
先摆门口，摆道路的时候打开网格，留的路口青石直路正好在整个方格
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周围摆上假山，就可以摆花草啦
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接下来摆这里
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忽然想到了以前摆过的多层楼阁在这里搭一个
因为那个楼阁里面要放木地板，木地板接触家具就会刷新抬高家具
所以先决定好楼阁的大小
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这样正好可以放16块木地板
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木地板先放在中间
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然后收起回廊四周加上木地板
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木地板周围加上回廊
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加上坊市灯
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里面也加上
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开始用书案搭楼梯去二楼三楼
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开始摆前面的道路
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门口部分就是这样啦
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现在家具没有上限了是吗 凉爽 发表于 2023-11-28 12:22 广东
现在家具没有上限了是吗
有的，是从每升一级加100变成了加500,5级变成了4500上限 开始装修左边的山坡啦
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感觉楼梯搭的差不多了，用树木试一下
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高度够了开始加道路
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开始搭第二层的楼梯
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用平台测试地图边缘在哪里
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道路右边接个水榭
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继续搭楼梯
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连接个小亭子
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这里应该就是左边山坡的最高点啦
在亭子里放了四个椅子，大家可以在这里开会啦
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先在楼梯两侧放坊市灯
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两侧放上青苔石块
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楼梯那里用水岸确定边缘
小亭子下面用山水间确定了边缘
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这里道路想用亭子延伸出去，然后高处的楼梯下面搭个山洞
铺道路穿过去
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回廊尽头铺一片平台，在上面用水岸搭出山洞的轮廓
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用高墙确定亭子下水岸的位置
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在水岸两侧装饰树木
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山洞里面的样子
感觉还可以
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收起平台
把亭子下和边缘的水岸部分都用树木遮挡一下
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开始填山坡上的空地
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楼梯和水榭下用树木遮挡
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开始铺道路啦
先用步日八砖把回廊连接起来然后铺满青石直路
再收起平台
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先去装饰外面，把树根遮挡住
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开始装修道路细节啦
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左边山坡部分就完工啦
接下来装修这一块
因为想让两边的山坡用回廊连接在一起，所以先摆回廊
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因为左边的山坡太高了，右边不想摆这么高
所以会摆低一点的平台
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这样就确定了另一边的高度啦
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地面再放一个山水间
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用水岸围出边缘
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先搭第一层的楼梯
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放一段道路然摆第二段的楼梯
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用绿树确定了二楼的高度
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用繁盛木和榕树遮挡圆台下面的空间
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右边搭一个低一点的圆台
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楼梯那里接上平台
在圆台后面放一个九鼎偏房
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边缘用石栏围起来
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用平台确定二层的大概范围
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用树木围出边缘
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开始铺第一层的道路
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一层好啦
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开始铺第二层的道路
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开始装饰细节啦
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开始装修最后一块空地啦
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大概是装修一个地面的小庭院吧
先放一个屋子确定大概的位置
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接下来就开始摆道路啦
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装饰道路两边
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回廊这里用了镂空花墙
加了小灯装饰
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当时估计错误，我以为是整体的提升了摆放上限
可是摆到3000的时候就提示到上限了
看来是每升1级改成了加500
已经保存了现在这套方案，等妹子升级以后再继续摆
现在开始收起道路两侧的竹篱改成花坛
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收了200多个家具啦
开始摆花坛
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先这样了 开始敲土
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开始摆荷花啦
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这得花多少银子{:9_541:} 乧榊尛妖 发表于 2023-11-28 15:36 山东
这得花多少银子
600多万饷银吧 这次是改框架 想要个郁郁葱葱的山坡和湖心岛
第一步先开始收家具
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精装房收家具好麻烦呀
批量收家具的时候把房子也一起收起来了
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一键填埋把主屋和围墙的缺口摆上
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先摆门口
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开始用花草树木装饰啦
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开始搭这边的山坡啦
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先搭好楼梯
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先装饰左边
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右边第一层接回廊
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边缘围上水岸
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到时候这里接一个连接一楼的楼梯
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开始搭楼梯啦
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开始装饰楼梯两边
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用树木装饰楼梯两侧
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然后开始铺道路啦
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开始装修最后这快啦
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最后在道路两侧加树木
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山坡部分就完工啦
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看了看想在下面的空地加个高台的桥梁
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放了个圆台 ，能放得下
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用假山围起来
先摆第一层
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然后第二层
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在出入口那里收起假山
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用繁盛木装饰
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摆上圆台
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打开网格
在山洞口对应的位置摆第二个假山
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加上繁盛木和高台
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摆放连接两个高台的小桥
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装饰下细节
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门口和高台间用道路连接
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回廊连接主屋
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爱心岛决定放在这里
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开始装这块啦
打算在这里装个花廊
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外面大概好啦
开始装室内
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室内好啦
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开始水面的灯
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再敲土放荷花就完工啦
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好看，就是学不会！ https://ok.166.net/reunionpub/ds/kol/20231110/161431-i7rg5u2aqd.png
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这个洞天想要秋天的地面和多彩的空中
希望家具上限真的提高了那么多，这样空中也可以摆的满满的了
先摆门口
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然后是左边的山坡啦
因为房子需要先从地面拖出来再移到空中
所以一开始就先摆房子在把房子用小石头移到地图边缘，等到摆空中的时候再移到空中就可以啦
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先摆好第一段楼梯
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开始搭第二层
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水榭接石头桥和小亭子
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山水间屏风确定边缘位置
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屏风这里就是山坡第一层的高度啦
确定高度以后，用楼梯连接第二层
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开始装饰细节啦
先摆楼梯两侧的灯和石头
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先摆两侧的树木
紫树围出边缘
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岁月树下用假山遮挡
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边缘接平台
在上面摆回廊
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用这个回廊是因为之前已经有这个了
为了不浪费就优先用了
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开始装饰前面的空地啦
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绿树间点缀紫灵木
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开始用绿树装饰左边
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两侧装饰白桦和苍枯木
这样山坡部分就完工啦
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